@Theologyhamster Standing in a church singing a hymn doesn’t make us holy any more than standing in a barn and neighing makes us a horse.
@The_squizarrd replies to the @TheologyHamster i dont like that statement because its all about the heart. If you whole heartedly love God and believe Jesus youre holy in His eyes. Even though we sin He loves us and forgives us. But if i sleep in a stable and eat hay and truly believe Im a horse doesnt make me a horse. Im a human. Not a horse. Its one of those things nobody (not even theology majors) can understand. Its a heart and mind and soul thing. Which only God sees inside us.
@NickolasAyers replies to @The_squizarrdd A couple things I want to address. It is not our love that justifies us Holy in God’s eyes. Loving God does not justify my sins before God. It is the fact that Jesus paid the ultimate sacrifice to pay off our debt. It is because of that we love God. Jesus’s sacrifice justifies us in God’s eyes. This outrageous act results in our love for God. We love God because he first loved us. Believing in Jesus also does not justify us in God’s eyes. Satan believes in Jesus yet he is not justified. We are saved not through any action on our part, but only from the action on God’s part. We reserve no right to boast in our name therefore any boasting is directed straight to God. It is the Love of God that shapes our heart toward him. God can harden or soften a heart at any time he pleases. He did this with Pharaoh (exodus 9:12). This is why my outrageous statement is even more incredible. “Standing in a church singing a hymn doesn’t make us Holy any more than standing in a barn and neighing makes us a horse.” I cannot on my own stand in a barn and turn myself into a horse, but God can. Standing in church singing a hymn does not make me Holy. God by his incredible outrageous Love presented through Jesus Christ provides the miraculous transformation from sinner to sinless. Let me ask you. Have you ever actually seen a camel go through the eye of a needle? I would assume that’s a no because it is physically impossible. However Jesus says, “again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” This to is physically impossible. So we can either believe that every rich man is going to Hell or that God is able to make a camel go through the eye of a needle. Same with my statement. We can either believe that every person is going to Hell or that God can turn me into a horse. God saves us. We do not save ourselves. If saving ourselves were possible for us to do on our own, then we would not need God. Camels cannot walk through the eye of a needle, and neither can we turn ourselves into a horse. This is the miracle. God can do all things. He can make a camel go through the eye of a needle and he can turn me into a horse.